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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://gossipinthegarden.com/all-posts/succulents-and-succulents-and-succulents/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your detailed and very thought through response to frost tolerant succulents!  I appreciate the time you&#039;ve taken here....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your detailed and very thought through response to frost tolerant succulents!  I appreciate the time you&#8217;ve taken here&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gossipinthegarden.com/all-posts/succulents-and-succulents-and-succulents/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are plenty of succulents that are perfectly hardy, such as Sempervivum species, Graptopetalum paraguayense,(which is the hanging plant in your photo of the pot, with a Graptoveria &#039;Fred Ives&#039; as the larger leafed plant which is a hybrid of Graptopetalum and Echeveria, and is not all that hardy).  The Graptoveria &#039;Fred Ives&#039; is a favorite of mine for mild gardens as the coloration of the leaves changes so dramatically throughout the year, from pearly gray to opalescent lavenders and pink.  Among the Echeverias the E. x imbricata(the hand me down plant you refer to), as well as others such as Echeveria elegans, E. agavoides are fully hardy, things like Sedum dendroideum, most of the smaller Agaves, plenty of Aloe species, etc.

Aeoniums in general are not that frost tolerant, but all will come through better if planted under the eaves of a house or beneath evergreen trees that will protect them from radiation frosts.

Many of the Sedums are also bulltet proof for USDA zone 8b gardens, with Sedum palmeri being one that looks tender but even does well back in North Carolina for Tony Avent.

The frost tender succulents are probably best used as container plants that can be moved under cover, in my opinion, because it just seems such a waste to have a beautiful Agave attenuata that you have pampered for years get wiped out by one night of frost.  I probably also wouldn&#039;t want to rely on mass quantities of tender succulents such as Aeoniums if I knew they would need fussing over every winter.  If you want to go that route, you should check out the frost protection structures that they have at the Ruth Bancroft Garden in Walnut Creek for the tender stuff, or the permanent shade/roof structure in the garden that looks a bit like a pergola for the massed Aeonium collection they have out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are plenty of succulents that are perfectly hardy, such as Sempervivum species, Graptopetalum paraguayense,(which is the hanging plant in your photo of the pot, with a Graptoveria &#8216;Fred Ives&#8217; as the larger leafed plant which is a hybrid of Graptopetalum and Echeveria, and is not all that hardy).  The Graptoveria &#8216;Fred Ives&#8217; is a favorite of mine for mild gardens as the coloration of the leaves changes so dramatically throughout the year, from pearly gray to opalescent lavenders and pink.  Among the Echeverias the E. x imbricata(the hand me down plant you refer to), as well as others such as Echeveria elegans, E. agavoides are fully hardy, things like Sedum dendroideum, most of the smaller Agaves, plenty of Aloe species, etc.</p>
<p>Aeoniums in general are not that frost tolerant, but all will come through better if planted under the eaves of a house or beneath evergreen trees that will protect them from radiation frosts.</p>
<p>Many of the Sedums are also bulltet proof for USDA zone 8b gardens, with Sedum palmeri being one that looks tender but even does well back in North Carolina for Tony Avent.</p>
<p>The frost tender succulents are probably best used as container plants that can be moved under cover, in my opinion, because it just seems such a waste to have a beautiful Agave attenuata that you have pampered for years get wiped out by one night of frost.  I probably also wouldn&#8217;t want to rely on mass quantities of tender succulents such as Aeoniums if I knew they would need fussing over every winter.  If you want to go that route, you should check out the frost protection structures that they have at the Ruth Bancroft Garden in Walnut Creek for the tender stuff, or the permanent shade/roof structure in the garden that looks a bit like a pergola for the massed Aeonium collection they have out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://gossipinthegarden.com/all-posts/succulents-and-succulents-and-succulents/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found some survive better than others.  We don&#039;t get 2 months of frosts, but rather about 2 weeks of temps. that dip into the high 20&#039;s.  That&#039;s enough to wipe out the leaves of a lot of succulents (agave tenuatas and aeoniums for example).  I cover them up with a very trashy-looking combination of bamboo poles w/either sheets or burlap covering them.  Looks like little &#039;ghosts&#039; all over my garden (sure the neighbors aren&#039;t thrilled with this, so I always bribe them with free plants/cuttings in the summer.....).  Even then, if it&#039;s super cold, the burlap doesn&#039;t seem to help and I just say a &#039;Hail Mary&#039; and wish for the best.  A friend of mine taught me the phrase &quot;planting opportunities&quot; which is my mantra during those wicked cold snaps.  If you&#039;re a patient person, those plants that are really damaged DO tend to rebound (though my Attenuata took 2 full years to come back).  Is there any way you could re-locate some of yours against a sheltered spot, along your house, perhaps??  

You&#039;re smart in moving some of them to your covered porch while keeping them watered throughout the Winter. Most people forget that little step (watering in the Winter) - which is CRUCIAL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found some survive better than others.  We don&#8217;t get 2 months of frosts, but rather about 2 weeks of temps. that dip into the high 20&#8242;s.  That&#8217;s enough to wipe out the leaves of a lot of succulents (agave tenuatas and aeoniums for example).  I cover them up with a very trashy-looking combination of bamboo poles w/either sheets or burlap covering them.  Looks like little &#8216;ghosts&#8217; all over my garden (sure the neighbors aren&#8217;t thrilled with this, so I always bribe them with free plants/cuttings in the summer&#8230;..).  Even then, if it&#8217;s super cold, the burlap doesn&#8217;t seem to help and I just say a &#8216;Hail Mary&#8217; and wish for the best.  A friend of mine taught me the phrase &#8220;planting opportunities&#8221; which is my mantra during those wicked cold snaps.  If you&#8217;re a patient person, those plants that are really damaged DO tend to rebound (though my Attenuata took 2 full years to come back).  Is there any way you could re-locate some of yours against a sheltered spot, along your house, perhaps??  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re smart in moving some of them to your covered porch while keeping them watered throughout the Winter. Most people forget that little step (watering in the Winter) &#8211; which is CRUCIAL!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love succulents.  It is almost impossible for me to kill them so they are the greatest.  Question.  How do I have them survive the winter?  My garden is in #9 climate zone, I get frost for two months in the winter.  I have left the plants out and they turned black due to the frost, I have put them in my greenhouse and promptly forgot to water them!  I now have a covered porch and wonder how I can help them live out their lives over the Winter.  I.E. put their pots on a cookie sheet to water them and let them drain?  What do I do about the succulents I have in the ground?  Help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love succulents.  It is almost impossible for me to kill them so they are the greatest.  Question.  How do I have them survive the winter?  My garden is in #9 climate zone, I get frost for two months in the winter.  I have left the plants out and they turned black due to the frost, I have put them in my greenhouse and promptly forgot to water them!  I now have a covered porch and wonder how I can help them live out their lives over the Winter.  I.E. put their pots on a cookie sheet to water them and let them drain?  What do I do about the succulents I have in the ground?  Help!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://gossipinthegarden.com/all-posts/succulents-and-succulents-and-succulents/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People who don&#039;t like succulents usually say they&#039;re too &#039;cactus-ey&#039; looking (which just kills me).   I&#039;ve also heard that they &#039;look kinda 70&#039;s-ish&#039;...(again, I die a thousand deaths when I hear this.  But to each his own, right?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People who don&#8217;t like succulents usually say they&#8217;re too &#8216;cactus-ey&#8217; looking (which just kills me).   I&#8217;ve also heard that they &#8216;look kinda 70&#8242;s-ish&#8217;&#8230;(again, I die a thousand deaths when I hear this.  But to each his own, right?)</p>
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		<title>By: invisiblebees</title>
		<link>http://gossipinthegarden.com/all-posts/succulents-and-succulents-and-succulents/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>invisiblebees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that your succulents have become family (and friend!) heirlooms! Many of my favorite plants are richly connected with my own history and memories.

Out of curiosity, what kinds of objections do you hear from people who don&#039;t care for succulents?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that your succulents have become family (and friend!) heirlooms! Many of my favorite plants are richly connected with my own history and memories.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, what kinds of objections do you hear from people who don&#8217;t care for succulents?</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Pomona!  Ah yes...shrivelling succulents.  I&#039;ve read that inconsistent watering and temperatures in hot, Summer months are the cause of this and Aeoniums,in particular, do this as a way of protecting themselves.  Come cool weather, they&#039;ll &#039;bloom&#039; again. 

Right now, my usually 12&quot; Aeoniums are a puny 3&quot;, looking more like snakes than plants....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Pomona!  Ah yes&#8230;shrivelling succulents.  I&#8217;ve read that inconsistent watering and temperatures in hot, Summer months are the cause of this and Aeoniums,in particular, do this as a way of protecting themselves.  Come cool weather, they&#8217;ll &#8216;bloom&#8217; again. </p>
<p>Right now, my usually 12&#8243; Aeoniums are a puny 3&#8243;, looking more like snakes than plants&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Pomona Belvedere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pomona Belvedere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a great nonthreatening, information-packed post on growing succulents! I&#039;d like to remind folks that there are many frost-hardy succulents (though of course I lust after the tender ones), for those of us who live in freezing-winter climates.

I can also testify that succulents shrivel from lack of water and, in my case, burn from too much sun. The video&#039;s very timely as right now I have a pot of succulents which are re-growing after freezing, and was wondering what to do with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a great nonthreatening, information-packed post on growing succulents! I&#8217;d like to remind folks that there are many frost-hardy succulents (though of course I lust after the tender ones), for those of us who live in freezing-winter climates.</p>
<p>I can also testify that succulents shrivel from lack of water and, in my case, burn from too much sun. The video&#8217;s very timely as right now I have a pot of succulents which are re-growing after freezing, and was wondering what to do with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 00:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeannie - We have similar frosts here in Los Altos (the &#039;other&#039; LA!!) and my succulents fare only OKAY.  If it&#039;s going to get below 29 or so, I usually run out and cover them with burlap sacks or old sheets draped around old tomato cages and other atrocities like that which I&#039;m sure horrify the neighbors... It looks like little ghosts all over my garden. hmmm...maybe it&#039;s time for another blog showing how to protect our babies in the frost. 

I also haul my pots around - not inside, but under my house eaves, and other protected spots around my garden.

And when all else fails....I sit there and cry, knowing I&#039;ll have a pile of mush to deal with come Spring.  Luckily, they usually re-bound fairly quickly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeannie &#8211; We have similar frosts here in Los Altos (the &#8216;other&#8217; LA!!) and my succulents fare only OKAY.  If it&#8217;s going to get below 29 or so, I usually run out and cover them with burlap sacks or old sheets draped around old tomato cages and other atrocities like that which I&#8217;m sure horrify the neighbors&#8230; It looks like little ghosts all over my garden. hmmm&#8230;maybe it&#8217;s time for another blog showing how to protect our babies in the frost. </p>
<p>I also haul my pots around &#8211; not inside, but under my house eaves, and other protected spots around my garden.</p>
<p>And when all else fails&#8230;.I sit there and cry, knowing I&#8217;ll have a pile of mush to deal with come Spring.  Luckily, they usually re-bound fairly quickly!</p>
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